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	<title>Antisemitism on the Internet :: RE: Indiana &amp;quot; Zionism = Racism! &amp;quot;</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Indiana &amp;amp;quot; Zionism = Racism! &amp;amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 21, 2009 14:55 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;drdon wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;Zionism = Racism! 
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 What Israel is doing is a Jewish version of &amp;quot;We Are The Master Race.&amp;quot; It is so sad how many times that racist &amp;quot;Gott Mit Uns&amp;quot; (God With Us) meme has been repeated throughout human history. &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=124x293974#294199&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=124x293974#294199&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;you miserable pos....Tell me how that bit of anti-semitic crap is different than the shit on stormfront ?? huh???
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there is none.
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go fuck yourself , you self hating bitch.&lt;/span&gt;
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how does she get away with these ??&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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1) She wears the Skinner coat of arms for protection.
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2) Lithos won't challenge reason #1 and the washed up hag is only saying what Lithos himself would say were he not the I/P Mod.
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As for your other question, DU and StormFront became indistinguishable a long time ago.  How else did &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;KAPO&lt;/span&gt;stein find DU?&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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 Former Senator Pat Moynihan had some advice for DICKie KAPOstein when he said &amp;quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Antisemitism on the Internet :: Indiana &amp;quot; Zionism = Racism! &amp;quot;</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86835#86835</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;drdon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Indiana &amp;amp;quot; Zionism = Racism! &amp;amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 21, 2009 11:29 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;Zionism = Racism! 
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 What Israel is doing is a Jewish version of &amp;quot;We Are The Master Race.&amp;quot; It is so sad how many times that racist &amp;quot;Gott Mit Uns&amp;quot; (God With Us) meme has been repeated throughout human history. &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=124x293974#294199&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=124x293974#294199&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;you miserable pos....Tell me how that bit of anti-semitic crap is different than the shit on stormfront ?? huh???
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there is none.
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go fuck yourself , you self hating bitch.&lt;/span&gt;
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how does she get away with these ??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Antisemitism on the Internet :: RE: RICHARD SILVERSTEIN POSTS HIS OWN LETTERS AND REPLIES...</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86834#86834</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=73&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;QueerJustice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Nov 20, 2009 11:42 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Andy Lewis wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Maybe he's really posting from Sweden&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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as a sock puppet of Israel Shamir.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/images/smiles/default/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Maybe from Australia  ..  maybe Richard Silverstein is really Whitetrash antisemite AKA Karen AKA Violet Crumble  ...
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wouldnt surprise me in the least if it were a David Duke type like Crumble running `Tikkun Olam` .
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Think about it , VC had to invent a `Jewish` persana to give meaning to her obsession , since shes neither a Jew nor a muslim...jus plain old style Jew hater...&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;..........................................................................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Mind Numbing Stupidity on the Internet :: RE: No True Scotsman, er Black Man...</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86832#86832</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: No True Scotsman, er Black Man...&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 20, 2009 06:06 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Behind the Aegis wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Jesse Jackson: You can't vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man
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Of course, people are all atwitter with how this is a smart thing he said.  The title of my thread is part of a logical fallacy called &amp;quot;No True Scotsman.&amp;quot;  Basically, it means one cannot or has to do something in order to be a part of said group.  In this case, it is black men.  The reason I saw this as interesting was two fold: one, the logical fallacy angle, and two, the type of people 'defending' his statement.  &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;A few, not all, are anti-Israel&lt;/span&gt; and were a Jew, say Dershowitz, came out and said: &amp;quot;no true Jew&amp;quot; in regards to anti-Semitism or Israel, then the same assholes defending Jackson would turn into rabid dogs attacking Dershowitz (or whomever) for the use of the logical fallacy and how Jews should be able to hold whatever opinion they desire.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;EFerrari&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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 Former Senator Pat Moynihan had some advice for DICKie KAPOstein when he said &amp;quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Mind Numbing Stupidity on the Internet :: No True Scotsman, er Black Man...</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86831#86831</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=34&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Behind the Aegis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: No True Scotsman, er Black Man...&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 20, 2009 01:16 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Jesse Jackson: You can't vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man
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Of course, people are all atwitter with how this is a smart thing he said.  The title of my thread is part of a logical fallacy called &amp;quot;No True Scotsman.&amp;quot;  Basically, it means one cannot or has to do something in order to be a part of said group.  In this case, it is black men.  The reason I saw this as interesting was two fold: one, the logical fallacy angle, and two, the type of people 'defending' his statement.  A few, not all, are anti-Israel and were a Jew, say Dershowitz, came out and said: &amp;quot;no true Jew&amp;quot; in regards to anti-Semitism or Israel, then the same assholes defending Jackson would turn into rabid dogs attacking Dershowitz (or whomever) for the use of the logical fallacy and how Jews should be able to hold whatever opinion they desire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Antisemitism on the Internet :: RE: RICHARD SILVERSTEIN POSTS HIS OWN LETTERS AND REPLIES...</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86830#86830</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=6&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Andy Lewis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Maybe he's really posting from Sweden&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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as a sock puppet of Israel Shamir.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/images/smiles/default/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;The Dersh Man...doin' the best he can, to make the world a better place.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Antisemitism on the Internet :: RICHARD SILVERSTEIN POSTS HIS OWN LETTERS AND REPLIES...</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86829#86829</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=73&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;QueerJustice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RICHARD SILVERSTEIN POSTS HIS OWN LETTERS AND REPLIES...&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 19, 2009 23:41 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;RICHARD SILVERSTEIN POSTS HIS OWN LETTERS AND REPLIES...
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ON HIS ANTI-JEWISH BLOG...
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HE PENS HIS OWN REPLIES ......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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Kapo Dickie, a.k.a. Richard Silverstein, runs a pro-terror anti-Semitic pro-nazi blog, on which we have long suspected that he himself posts most of the letters there agreeing with himself. He uses such clever pseudonyms as &amp;quot;Witty Richard&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Hasbara Buster.&amp;quot; Well, a few days he posted a lurid item on his blog claiming that the leaders of the pro-Israel Z Street were leaving nasty comments on his blog in response to his infantile rantings.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Karen and Richard (violet crumble)  Probably account for 98% of the membership on their forum.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;..........................................................................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>In Response &amp; Members' Op-Editorials :: RE: Challenge to WHITETRASH</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86827#86827</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Nov 19, 2009 16:19 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Seeing that &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;WHIETRASH&lt;/span&gt; proved her cowardice, now it's time for &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;REPULSIVEMUSLIM&lt;/span&gt; to take up the challenge.
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She boasts that PSU is a hate site, post a few links at &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Vile/KAPO's &lt;/span&gt;forum proving your point.
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You don't have the guts to post any.  &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;BTW&lt;/span&gt;, posts by a person known as Herschel hardly count seeing as he was Vile's partner in trying to discredit us.
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While you're at it, why don't you tell everyone why you and your husband were &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;DEPORTED&lt;/span&gt; from the West Bank?  Spies for &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;HAMAS&lt;/span&gt; maybe?  When you're not good enough for terrorists, what does that say about you?&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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 Former Senator Pat Moynihan had some advice for DICKie KAPOstein when he said &amp;quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Mind Numbing Stupidity on the Internet :: When the going gets tough</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86826#86826</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: When the going gets tough&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 19, 2009 16:06 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;The tough have a few options.
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 They can either run home and hide behind their mommy’s skirt or they can gather their little friends and try to ostracize the person from the schoolyard.  Actually he did try the former but &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;WHITETRASH, REPULSIVEMUSLIM AND DUMBERTHANDOGSHIT&lt;/span&gt; knew it was a lost cause.  So &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;BITCHBOY&lt;/span&gt; tried his own version of &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;BDS&lt;/span&gt;.
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;BITCHBOY&lt;/span&gt; Wed Nov-18-09 03:05 PM 
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73. I'd like to publicly call for all other I/P posters to put Aegis on &amp;quot;ignore&amp;quot; 
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None of his responses have anything to contribute to this forum, or this issue. 
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&amp;amp;forum=124&amp;amp;topic_id=293521&amp;amp;mesg_id=294029&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&amp;amp;forum=124&amp;amp;topic_id=293521&amp;amp;mesg_id=294029&lt;/a&gt;
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Now to be fair to the intellectually challenged &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;BITCHBOY&lt;/span&gt;, readers are well aware that for the past three months he has been made a complete fool by Pelsar, Shira and others.  Then when the producers of “Are you smarter than a fifth grader” refused his application to compete, giving the reason that they do want to challenge the fifth graders he finally snapped.
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But like his fellow Alaskan Sarah Palin, he really believes the people are laughing at a joke he tried when reality tells us everyone are peeing their pants laughing at the buffoon he is.  
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Another observation about &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;BITCHBOY&lt;/span&gt;.  He is the actual reason Mr. &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;KAPO&lt;/span&gt;stein stopped posting at &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;DU&lt;/span&gt;.  He has no desire to debte/discuss issues of Israel with people of knowledge.  On his own blog he can lie or delete issues he finds uncomfortable.  He can create all the sockpuppets he wants to kiss his tush.  He can’t do that at DU.  He is impotent when confronted by knowledgeable posters.  So like all wannabe bullies, he runs away.
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&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;SPEAKING OF STUPIDITY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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As everyone is aware, the quarterly SkinnerScam is going on.  This quarter's fund drive has a new angle.  Make a donation and 10% will be donated to the charity du jur.  He might have gone over the top had he selected a day devoted to HAMASTAN.  Skinner how come after all this time you missed the obvious?  Then we see this response to DU's GrovelBot
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Violet_Crumble  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-18-09 04:31 AM
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58. I'll donate if I can have my username changed to PLObunny! 
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;CHANGE IT TO A NAME WORTHY OF HER LIKE WHITETRASH AND I WILL MAKE A DONATION AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME A STAR.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: To be watched&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 19, 2009 14:24 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the most challenging questions facing the younger Jewish generation is how to keep the memory of the Holocaust alive. Not too far in the future, there will no longer be &amp;quot;Holocaust Survivors&amp;quot; alive on earth to tell their stories. It will be left to the next generation to tell the story in their own manner.
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Many young Israelis have been experimenting with new, alternative Holocaust memorial services, which to the older generation seem highly non-traditional, and even at times offensive, yet they nevertheless are sincere attempts to keep the memory of the Holocaustalive, and make its message relevant to the younger generation.
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This year, Grammy award winning Israeli violinist Miri Ben-Ari and Israeli rap/hip-hop star Kobi &amp;quot;Subliminal&amp;quot; Shimoni have co-produced a hip-hop music video expressing their sentiments on the Shoah. It is called &amp;quot;God Almighty When Will it End.&amp;quot; 
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;In one way or the other, may the memory of the Six Million always remain alive in our hearts and souls&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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	<title>The Peace Process :: A wheelless cart before a lame horse</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: A wheelless cart before a lame horse&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 19, 2009 13:07 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;One should never underestimate the propensity of the Palestinians for shooting themselves in the foot, to wit, the situation Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has put himself in with regard to the peace process.&lt;/span&gt; True, this may not have been entirely his fault - mixed signals from abroad also had something to do with it, but Abbas seems to be bent on doing everything to get himself into an even deeper hole by adopting ever more intransigent positions. &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Then there was his zigzagging on the Goldstone Report, after first having asked Israel during the Gaza war to &amp;quot;smash&amp;quot; Hamas. &lt;/span&gt;
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Now someone has come up with the idea of unilaterally declaring Palestinian statehood. Palestinian Prime Minister Salaam Fayad had earlier broached the idea of building up Palestinian governance - a plausible concept in itself - but what the Palestinian functionaries around Abbas intend now is something completely different, amounting to putting a wheelless cart before a lame horse. 
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;They had tried it before; back in 1999 Yasser Arafat, who as a result of the Oslo agreement was back in the country, announced that the Palestinians would forthwith declare their independence - only to be quickly disabused of this idea when the US and most of the Europeans made it clear to him that the declaration would not be recognized by the international community. &lt;/span&gt;
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In the present case, there will probably be a replay of this scenario, there being indications that neither the US nor most members of the European community as well as others would legitimize a unilateral declaration by according it recognition. Even the support of Russia and China is in doubt, given that the former has not recognized the unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo, and that the latter is facing the threat in its own backyard of the Muslim community in Xinjiang declaring independence. 
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Someone should have explained to Abbas that this plan would in effect annul all past agreements including those which had granted legitimacy to the Palestinian Authority as part of the Oslo agreement.&lt;/span&gt; Also, any unilateral act regarding borders and territory could immediately trigger parallel annexations in the territories on the part of the State of Israel. In essence, a unilateral declaration of statehood would be in violation of international law and might be deemed an act of aggression, giving Israel the right to act in response, militarily or otherwise. 
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SO WHY does the official Palestinian leadership still threaten to go ahead with an act which so obviously goes against its own interests? It could be to pave the way towards a new wave of violence, as Arafat had planned and acted upon after the failure of the Camp David conference. But there may also be another, more immediate reason, namely, to bring about the elimination of UN Security Council Resolution 242.&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;This resolution, which is the only agreed basis for all the agreements and initiatives to bring about a settlement of the conflict between Israel and its neighbors, including the Palestinians (and of course, Syria), also determined that Israel was not required to withdraw from all the territories it holds as a result of repulsing Arab aggression in 1967, and that furthermore, future borders should be based on considerations of security.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; In other words, the dividing line between a future Palestinian state and Israel would not necessarily be commensurate with the former temporary armistice line called the &amp;quot;Green Line.&amp;quot; 
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This then, as senior PLO and Fatah official Yasser Abd Rabbo has confirmed, is their real and immediate agenda: get the Security Council of the UN to adopt a resolution to say that the future Palestinian border would be the Green Line - thus, in effect, replacing Resolution 242 and making the latter null and void. Israel's diplomacy thus has its job cut out for it in coming months, but one trusts that the US and others too are aware of the Palestinian stratagems and that they will not lend a hand to an initiative which would seriously exacerbate the political situation in the Middle East and return any chance of peace to square one. 
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	<title>In Response &amp; Members' Op-Editorials :: What Does &amp;quot;Pro-Palestinian&amp;quot; Really Mean?</title>
	<link>http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?p=86822#86822</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: What Does &amp;amp;quot;Pro-Palestinian&amp;amp;quot; Really Mean?&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 19, 2009 12:16 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;In recent years there has been a significant rise in the number of non-Palestinians who describe themselves as “pro-Palestinian” activists. These people can be found mostly on university campuses in North America and Europe.
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;What is striking is that many of these “pro-Palestinian” activists have never been to the Middle East, let alone the West Bank or the Gaza Strip. In most cases, they are not even Arabs or Muslims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;color: red&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;SOUND FAMILIAR?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;What makes them “pro-Palestinian”?&lt;/span&gt;
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In their view, inciting against Israel on a university campus or publishing “anti-Zionist” material on the Internet is sufficient to earn them the title of “pro-Palestinian.” &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;But what these folks have not realized is that their actions and words often do little to advance the interests of the Palestinians. In some instances, these actions and words are even counterproductive.&lt;/span&gt;
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It is hard to see how organizing events such as “Israel Apartheid Week” on a university campus could help the cause of the Palestinians. &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Isn’t there already enough anti-Israel incitement that is being spewed out of Arab and Islamic media outlets?&lt;/span&gt;
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If anyone is entitled to be called “pro-Palestinian,” it is those who are publicly campaigning against financial corruption and abuse of human rights by Fatah and Hamas. Those who are trying to change the system from within belong to the real “pro-Palestinian” camp.
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These are the brave people who are standing up to both Fatah and Hamas and calling on them to stop killing each other and start doing something that would improve the living conditions of their constituents.
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Instead of investing money and efforts in organizing Israel Apartheid Week, for example, the self-described “pro-Palestinians” could dispatch a delegation of teachers to Palestinian villages and refugee camps to teach young Palestinians English. Or they could send another delegation to the Gaza Strip to monitor human rights violations by the Hamas authorities and help Palestinian women confront Muslim fundamentalists who are trying to limit their role to cooking, raising children and looking after the needs of their husbands.
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Here is an idea: Let’s substitute Israel Apartheid Week with Palestine Democracy Week, where Palestinians would be urged and encouraged to demand an end to financial corruption and bad government.&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;The “pro-Palestinian” activists in the West clearly do not care about reforms and good government in the Palestinian territories. As far as these activists are concerned, delegitimizing Israel and inciting against “Zionists” are much more important that pushing for an end to financial corruption and violence in Palestinian society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;color: red&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;SOUNDS LIKE DU TO ME&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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Telling the world how bad and evil Israel and the Jews are does not help the Palestinians as much as demanding good government and encouraging the emergence of young and “clean” leadership in the Palestinian territories.
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If the “pro-Palestinian” camp in the West were investing a similar amount of its anti-Israel efforts in promoting moderation and civil society among Palestinians, it would be doing them a great service.&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Shouting anti-Israel slogans or organizing Israel Apartheid Week in the US and Canada does not necessarily make a person “pro-Palestinian.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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But promoting good government and reform in the Palestinian territories does make one “pro-Palestinian.”
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Being anti-Israel does not necessarily turn one into “pro-Palestinian.” On the other hand, promoting coexistence, peace and good government would be more beneficial to the Palestinians.
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The Palestinians do not need students and professors on university campuses to tell them that Israel is bad. They have already had enough of this incitement from Hamas, Fatah and other Arab media outlets and leaders.
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It is time for the “pro-Palestinian” camp in the West to reconsider its policies and tactics. It is time for this camp to listen to the authentic voices of the Palestinians – those that are shouting day and night that the Palestinians want good leaders and an end to lawlessness, anarchy and financial corruption. 
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hudsonny.org/2009/11/what-does-pro-palestinian-really-mean.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;SOURCE&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;color: red&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE AUTHOR READS DU ON A DAILY BASIS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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	<title>Israel, Palestinian Terrorism and Palestinian Politics :: RE: Hamas Offers $1.4 Million For an Israeli Soldier</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GabysPoppy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Nov 19, 2009 08:50 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Notice that the terrorist supporters at &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;DU&lt;/span&gt; have &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 24px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;NOTHING&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to say about this.
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But when it comes to the idiot Sarah Palin, guess who jumps all over it?
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;Note this is the same moron who's position re: Israel is in lock step with David Duke.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;We Stand as One&lt;/a&gt;
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	<title>Israel, Palestinian Terrorism and Palestinian Politics :: Hamas Offers $1.4 Million For an Israeli Soldier</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;drdon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Hamas Offers $1.4 Million For an Israeli Soldier&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 19, 2009 05:38 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;A charity run by the interior minister of Hamas has offered $1.4 Million for a captured Israeli soldier. Given how much they keep talking about wanting peace, I assume that they only want to talk to the soldier and then will let him go. You know, the way they are talking to Gilad Shalit.
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I warned, and was by no means alone, that the Israelis trading prisoners for a video of Gilad Shalit (video) would encourage further kidnappings.
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On the bright side at least we now know where our $900 million of 'Aid' went.
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&amp;quot;A Gaza charity headed by the interior minister of the militant Hamas group on Wednesday offered $1.4 million to any Arab citizen of Israel who abducts a soldier.
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Palestinians have frequently called on Israeli Arabs to abduct Israeli soldiers, but this is the first time that money has been offered.
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The Waad group from Gaza offered the bounty for Israeli soldiers in an e-mail sent to Palestinian media. The organization, which supports Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, is headed by Hamas' Interior Minister Fathi Hamad. The minister did not return messages seeking comment.
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The charity could presumably raise the cash through its connections with Hamas. The militant group is thought to have millions of dollars at its disposal, both through its tight control of Gaza and support from Iran and other allies.&amp;quot; 
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=34&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Behind the Aegis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Antisemitism and the reported world&lt;br /&gt;Posted: Nov 18, 2009 16:40 (GMT -5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Apparently, according to Channel 4's Dispatches programme on Monday night, there are some wealthy Jews out there bent on influencing British government policy on Israel. What a shocking finding. I wonder what they will uncover next? Lobbyists trying to influence government health policy, perhaps? Pressure groups seeking to change government policy on the war in Iraq? Business leaders trying to alter government thinking on economic policy?
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Aside from the shoddy research and the barely concealed antisemitic undertones (the idea of a shady, morally repugnant &amp;quot;cabal&amp;quot; of Jews seeking to control the world is a classic antisemitic myth), it was this lack of context that was most disturbing about the programme. As David Cesarani argued in his comment on the programme, there are numerous lobbying groups working with government and the media, trying to influence policy and opinion on a wide range of issues. Some of these even try to represent the Palestinian cause.
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There are also numerous Jewish leaders and philanthropists who support and invest in Palestinian Israeli causes, including the single largest pro-Israel charity in the UK and – according to the Jewish Chronicle – the single most influential philanthropist in the British Jewish community. Jewish leaders differ on how best to support Israel, and the opinions range from unquestioning support to intense criticism. But Channel 4 failed to include such contextual framing in its hour-long documentary, presumably because that might have undermined its highly spurious argument.
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But then, context is always the problem. There was no effort throughout the programme to contextualise Operation Cast Lead in Gaza. There was no mention of the Israeli government's withdrawal from Gaza in 2005, and the fact that, subsequently, Hamas had used the territory to launch countless randomly targeted missile attacks on Israeli towns and villages. In its analysis of the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, it failed to mention the thousands of missiles Hezbollah had assembled with Iranian and Syrian support on Israel's northern border, which it used with great effect to terrorise the Israeli population.
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